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JeanneG
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:07 pm Posts: 1037 Location: Minnesota
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 Incompatible Goals?
I've heard for, oh I suppose more than 8 years, that caregivers should "get help," "find help," "ask for help," "involve the family," and "get help." I've done some of that in various ways. I'm making a more concerted effort to do it now. I signed Coy up for weekly massage therapy, which he loves. I took him for six weeks. I don't mind this at all, but it does take up a big chunk of my work day, which I then try to make up for at night, after Coy goes to bed. Many an assignment has been sent in electronically at 2 am.  I'm having some health issues and I don't think that I can keep that up forever. I put out an email request to all family. A daughter and two granddaughters volunteered, and I worked out a schedule through January. But I've also heard that following a consistent routine is important. In another post Craig explains how difficult any deviation in a routine can be. This can be as little as usually offering the left sleeve first in helping with putting on a jacket, and one time offering the right sleeve. So here I am inserting different people into this massage routine, and in some cases different times of day, to fit their schedules. Sigh. Sometimes we just can't do it all, eh? I wrote our routine down, from where we hang our coats, all the way up to helping Coy dress after the massage, and sent it to the 3 helpers. The first turn came today. The daughter who volunteered lives in a distant suburb and we don't see a lot of her. Coy enjoyed seeing her, and I know he'll enjoy the two granddaughters, too. I hope that offsets the disruption to his routine. As a person who has always valued flexibility, I'm finding the consistent routine thing a bit of a challenge!
_________________ Jeanne, 66 caring for husband Coy, 85. RBD for 30+ years; LDB since 2003, Coy still at home, in early stage
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| Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:18 pm |
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mockturtle
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:46 pm Posts: 3008 Location: WA
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 Re: Incompatible Goals?
I'm a 'routine-loving' type, myself and my husband has always been fanatical about routine but I don't think you need to carry it to those extremes. Good grief, Derek hasn't even been able to tell night from day for years and certainly doesn't know what time it is!
_________________ Pat [67] married to Derek [83] for 37 years; husband dx PDD/LBD 2005, probably began 2002 or earlier; late stage and in a SNF as of January 2011.
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| Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:27 pm |
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LTCVT
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:33 pm Posts: 2824 Location: Vermont
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 Re: Incompatible Goals?
Just do the best you can do, knowing that perfection probably isn't attainable anyway, and remember that you cannot afford to compromise your own health by the constant giving and demands of caregiving. You are only human and need to take care of you too! Lynn
_________________ Lynn, daughter of 89 year old dad dx with possiblity of LBD, CBD, PSP, FTD, ALS, Vascular Dementia, AD, etc., died Nov. 30, 2010 after living in ALF for 18 months.
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| Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:51 pm |
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cdw
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 298 Location: southern cali
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 Re: Incompatible Goals?
jeanne...big hugs.. i hear you trying so hard... and hope it all pulls together for you...
ive been trying so hard to do the same but im finding i need to start bending, for my sanity...if nothing else... and like folks said, a few minutes here are there is hopefully not going to be that devastating for coy.... im making some small changes, a few at a time, little by little, that when complete will hopefully give me a few hours a week to do a few fun things... that i had completely given up this last two years...
i need that social time.. online and phone calls just arent cutting it... so hopefully it will work for me and it will work for you..
please take care of you... you are important too..
cindi
please let us know how assigning times, works out.. my counselor says not to wait till they offer..ASK!! so i just started doing that and asked if i could have a 3hours a month, from each of my family.. there are only three adults, ds, dd and dil.. so that isnt alot but its a start.. fingers crossed...for both of us...
_________________ CG for hubby. started showing symptoms in 2000, at 55, diagnosed at with AD at 62, LB at 64.. vietnam vet.. has ptsd, which doubled the chances for dementia...sprayed with agent orange. showing some signs of parkinsons.
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| Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:05 pm |
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LTCVT
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:33 pm Posts: 2824 Location: Vermont
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 Re: Incompatible Goals?
And don't forget to ask close friends. They were a Godsend with my dad! Also, the local hospice, before he was approved for hospice medical services, sent a volunteer who visited and talked with him a couple of times a week, which kept him occupied and gave him something new to look forward to. Lynn
_________________ Lynn, daughter of 89 year old dad dx with possiblity of LBD, CBD, PSP, FTD, ALS, Vascular Dementia, AD, etc., died Nov. 30, 2010 after living in ALF for 18 months.
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| Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:35 pm |
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katelu
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:28 pm Posts: 463 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: Incompatible Goals?
Ah, Jeanne. He'll get used to the new normal and might even enjoy it. Also, it is good for him to get used to multiple caregivers. Hopefully no time soon, but there is very likely to come a time when you will have no choice but to bring in additional help or even move him to a memory care facility. Getting him used to having help from more than one person, especially for those very personal tasks, will pay off in so many ways. I hope that's way in the future. But I can't tell you how many times I've wished I'd made a change when Mom was more cognizant and could understand and participate in the change. It's smart to make any changes you can, setting yourself and Coy up for what may be needed, as early as you can and it is reasonable to do.
Kate
_________________ Kate [i](Cared for Mom for years before anyone else noticed the symptoms, but the last year of her life was rough and we needed to place her in an SNF, where she passed in February 2012)[/i]
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| Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:29 pm |
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JeanneG
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:07 pm Posts: 1037 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: Incompatible Goals?
Good point, Kate. Thanks.
_________________ Jeanne, 66 caring for husband Coy, 85. RBD for 30+ years; LDB since 2003, Coy still at home, in early stage
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| Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:17 pm |
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BayouCajun
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm Posts: 386 Location: East TN
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 Re: Incompatible Goals?
Jeanneâ¦
remember everything I say is suspectâ¦
while I was relaying how even a small change in routine can be disruptiveâ¦
I know that is realityâ¦.over and overâ¦.
I was not trying to say one has to provide absolute uninterrupted routineâ¦. (it would be nice) but, impossibleâ¦.. come to think about itâ¦.it would not be niceâ¦.no variety? that stinksâ¦. â¦I think the goal should be to get the best overall experience for everyoneâ¦on both sides
rather, my explanation of what I experience and what I thinkâ¦.is to show why I get frustrated and have trouble when things changeâ¦.
so, when people around me are having to change my routineâ¦they will have a better understanding of why it becomes a problem for me nowâ¦.when it didn't a few years agoâ¦..
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let me give another example that was talked about at mayoâ¦that I could relate toâ¦. patient sits in the same recliner chair every dayâ¦. he sets his coffee cup and retrieves it from the side table that he has placed in a comfortable spot for a few weeksâ¦. his loved one, one day moves the table 'ONLY' a few inches for a more 'pleasing' look in the roomâ¦. the next dayâ¦.the patient spills his coffee and is very frustratedâ¦then becomes super frustrated that the room has been 'MADE' over⦠â¦.seems like a mountain over a molehill? not when put in contextâ¦. the procedural memory was setâ¦.and then a changeâ¦. the patient, won't even know why they are frustratedâ¦.but, they will beâ¦because their brain isn't doing what they want it to do and they can't figure out whyâ¦. that little thing is preventableâ¦.if understoodâ¦. â¦.I RELATED TO THAT EXAMPLEâ¦.I LIVED ITâ¦I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY
this end table thingeeâ¦.seems to me something that should be preserved if understood by allâ¦. keeping everyone healthy by rotating caregivers and the changes built in with thatâ¦.seems to be something that has to be okayâ¦.but understood that it will cause problemsâ¦
everything about this stinking disease is a problemâ¦.
_________________ Craig - Patient - Male - 56 years old - Lewy Bodies diagnosed on March 23, 2011 - cognitive disorder NOS dx 2007 - RBD REM dx 2007 issues for 20+ years - intention tremor 1974 - other issues many years
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