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Gerry
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:18 pm Posts: 835 Location: Acton, MA
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 Shaving
I jumped from the treatment section to tips. I also have to tend to all of Frank's personal needs. I find if I shave him while he's still in bed it's much easier. I go in with a hot face cloth and an electric shaver. I'm able to shave him in 5 minutes, I don't have to hold his chin up and it's earier to stretch the "turkey neck". He still brushes his teeth, I do have to take his partial plate out and get it back in. I stand there to watch, when he rinses his mouth he spits, anywhere, or he'll drag his tooth brush over the bar of soap.
_________________ Gerry 67, cared for Frank 71, married 49 yrs; dx 2004, passed away October 26, 2011.
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| Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:41 pm |
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mockturtle
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:46 pm Posts: 3008 Location: WA
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Curiously, shaving is one thing Derek is still able to do himself, sitting in the w/c in front of the sink. He prefers to use a razor, though he has several electric shavers. I have to do under his neck because, as you say, he can't stretch it out and see it at the same time. Early in Lewy, shaving took on monumental proportions in his life, maybe because it's a male ritual. We went through a lot of electric shavers, Braun, Remington and Norelco, none of which he finds satisfactory.  Amazingly, he doesn't cut himself very often. He insists on applying his foam with a brush and I hadn't brought it to the SNF so I had to run home and get it [only half a mile!].
_________________ Pat [67] married to Derek [83] for 37 years; husband dx PDD/LBD 2005, probably began 2002 or earlier; late stage and in a SNF as of January 2011.
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| Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:53 pm |
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robin
Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:46 pm Posts: 4811 Location: SF Bay Area (Northern CA)
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Gerry, Thanks for the good tip. I'll pass it along. Does the soap keep the toothbrush clean?  Robin
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:22 am |
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Leone
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:53 am Posts: 969 Location: Ocala, FL
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Gerry... I hadn't thought of shaving him in bed. Good suggestion. Its a bit gross to write, but I do use a nose hair clipper on him in bed. It is so very much easier to clip that way. He is at an age when the nose hair grows more than the hair on his head.
_________________ Leone Carroll (75); wife of Dale (75) who passed away March 23, 2011
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:28 am |
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mockturtle
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:46 pm Posts: 3008 Location: WA
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Quote: He is at an age when the nose hair grows more than the hair on his head. Derek also has a lot of ear hair. We use one of those little battery-operated nose-hair clippers for both.
_________________ Pat [67] married to Derek [83] for 37 years; husband dx PDD/LBD 2005, probably began 2002 or earlier; late stage and in a SNF as of January 2011.
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:52 am |
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karenpm
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:52 am Posts: 154 Location: Michigan
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 Re: Shaving
Gerry -
Do you use the hot face cloth on his face for a few minutes before you shave him? Or is that for after.
That's not one of my jobs yet, so I'm curious.
He has run through the manual, disposable, & now has been using a Braun electric (which he has infomed me needs a new head).
Karen
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:14 am |
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mockturtle
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:46 pm Posts: 3008 Location: WA
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Karen, I bought a new head for Derek's Braun and he still insists it doesn't work right. I could have bought another whole shaver for what it cost. 
_________________ Pat [67] married to Derek [83] for 37 years; husband dx PDD/LBD 2005, probably began 2002 or earlier; late stage and in a SNF as of January 2011.
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:33 am |
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Gerry
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:18 pm Posts: 835 Location: Acton, MA
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 Re: Shaving
Karen, I put the hot cloth on before, it does seem to make the job easier. Frank has several elec. razors but my favorite is the Philips, Norelco, rotary shaver.
_________________ Gerry 67, cared for Frank 71, married 49 yrs; dx 2004, passed away October 26, 2011.
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:19 pm |
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Leone
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:53 am Posts: 969 Location: Ocala, FL
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We keep two shavers going ... because of the dead skin that clogs both of them. I hate cleaning them.
_________________ Leone Carroll (75); wife of Dale (75) who passed away March 23, 2011
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:40 pm |
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Gerry
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:18 pm Posts: 835 Location: Acton, MA
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 Re: Shaving
It's also my job to clean the shavers. I think the hot cloth helps to remove the dead skin. That's one reason I like the Norelco, I clean it daily and it can be rinsed under the faucet. Every 4-5 weeks I take it apart, clean the teeth and screen and oil it.
_________________ Gerry 67, cared for Frank 71, married 49 yrs; dx 2004, passed away October 26, 2011.
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:00 pm |
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karenpm
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:52 am Posts: 154 Location: Michigan
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Thank you all for your input. I'll suggest to Bill that he try the hot wet wash cloth before he shaves. He's never been a electric shaver kind of guy so maybe he didn't know! lol!
So that's what that yellow cheesy stuff is that gets clogged in the shaver - dead skin!
Yes, I've looked at buying new head for the Braun & you're right Pat - $26! Maybe I'll just try a different brand.
As far as cleaning goes, that Norelco sounds better & better. You have to buy the cleaning solution for the Braun & that's not cheap either. I noticed it went up $2 since the last time I bought it. Suppose I could check out Amazon.com.
Karen
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:29 pm |
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mockturtle
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:46 pm Posts: 3008 Location: WA
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 Re: Shaving
Derek has a Norelco with the 'floating heads' and I like it the best, too. As Gerry said, the little heads and screens can be removed and cleaned with a toothbrush and then left to dry on a paper towel and the heads dipped in a little mineral oil. I only do this about every two weeks. Sure beats the Braun cleaning cartridges. Seems like the cartridges need changing about every other week or so--I think the manufacturer really saw us coming on that one. With the money we've spent on replacement heads and all the cleaner cartridges we've bought we could have five or six good shavers.
_________________ Pat [67] married to Derek [83] for 37 years; husband dx PDD/LBD 2005, probably began 2002 or earlier; late stage and in a SNF as of January 2011.
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:38 pm |
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Leone
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:53 am Posts: 969 Location: Ocala, FL
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It's so strange, Pat.... Those are the two electric razors we have. I am in complete agreement about the Norelco with the 'floating heads.' We had that one first and I thought the self-cleaning one would give me a break from taking the other one apart so often. I bought the Braun for Dale last Christmas.
Like you, I had no idea how many cleaning cartridges we would buy. In addition, the Braun is also pealing silver paint at one point near the blade assembly .... from all the cleaning solution, I guess. I'm not going to buy any more cartridges because of that. I'm sure the cleaning solution was not designed to accommodate the dead skin issue.
The Norelco parts do need to be cleaned with a brush. I'd like to find some solution that cleans off the 'yellow cheesy stuff' that Karen so aptly described. Then I could just take the razor apart and leave the parts in that solution. Any ideas? I use detergent now but it really doesn't work very well.
_________________ Leone Carroll (75); wife of Dale (75) who passed away March 23, 2011
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:57 pm |
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gailshef
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:32 am Posts: 215 Location: Kalispell, MT
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To clean the Norelco head, take it apart, hold it in your hand, and spray with the kitchen sink sprayer. No brush or other stuff like that. Works for me. If it works for you, post a reply.
Gail
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| Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:56 pm |
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Leone
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:53 am Posts: 969 Location: Ocala, FL
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Sorry, Gail. Dale's yellow cheesy stuff must be thicker than your husband's. It sticks to every little blade and gets in the holes as well. Trust me.
_________________ Leone Carroll (75); wife of Dale (75) who passed away March 23, 2011
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